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<p>Created page with &quot;Originally Posted : Fri Nov 19 20:46:03 2004&lt;br&gt;Posted by : Razan&lt;br&gt;Title : death exp change version 2&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve been in discussion about this death EXP loss much of the da...&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>Originally Posted : Fri Nov 19 20:46:03 2004&lt;br&gt;Posted by : Razan&lt;br&gt;Title : death exp change version 2&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been in discussion about this death EXP loss much of the day&lt;br&gt;with a number of different people. I think in reflection that my &lt;br&gt;change might have been hasty in several areas which I hope this &lt;br&gt;change addresses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My goal in the previous change was to bring EXP loss back in line&lt;br&gt;with what it was before the inclusion of standing and resurrection&lt;br&gt;level. It's clear to me now that I overstepped my logic. Let me&lt;br&gt;explain. Previously EXP loss was capped at 1mil but if you got a&lt;br&gt;rez (regardless of quality of rez) then it would drop down to 500k.&lt;br&gt;Again, I'm talking about caps here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With the inclusion of our &quot;new system&quot; it changed to be capped at&lt;br&gt;1mil EXP (again) *BUT* to get it down to 500k not only required&lt;br&gt;the best resurrection in the game (which we've seen empirically now&lt;br&gt;to not occur as likely as we had thought) but *ALSO* for the player&lt;br&gt;to have 50% of their total standing they can possibly have. I've&lt;br&gt;spent some time looking at player's standings and judging by all&lt;br&gt;the experience people were losing on this system it was clear that&lt;br&gt;the loss was more in the ballpark of 750k to 800k per rez. To me&lt;br&gt;this signifies that &quot;jihad standing is a requirement or it will&lt;br&gt;penalize you.&quot; I want to make standing a benefit, not something&lt;br&gt;people dread. There are many good reasons to raise your standing&lt;br&gt;and this should be one as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, so yesterday I changed the cap to 500k - simple change to make&lt;br&gt;it easier. This inadvertently made resurrection about worthless.&lt;br&gt;For now, people could temple and lose 500k minus a portion based&lt;br&gt;on their standing. Waiting for a cleric resurrection just didn't &lt;br&gt;make enough sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note that in these equations there is a 25% &quot;unrecoverable&quot; of&lt;br&gt;that base EXP loss (capped at 1mil or 500k, whichever system was&lt;br&gt;in place).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, so on to the change. Nero and I have discussed this at length&lt;br&gt;and come up with another simple change which I think better expresses&lt;br&gt;what I was aiming at. The change is this:&lt;br&gt;EXP loss is capped at 1mil EXP - we call this the 'base exp'&lt;br&gt;60% of that base exp can be recovered by your standing.&lt;br&gt;40% of that base exp can be recovered by a good rez.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, while almost no people have above, say, 75% of the best standing&lt;br&gt;that they can have, that means that they can hope to recover only&lt;br&gt;75% of 60% or 45%. I don't have a problem requiring people to wait&lt;br&gt;for a good rez if they want to get their EXP back. Notice in&lt;br&gt;this equation the absense of the &quot;unrecoverable&quot; exp loss. This means&lt;br&gt;that, in theory, you can lose 0 exp on a death. While in practice,&lt;br&gt;this will not happen, it's something to strive for. Aha! We've&lt;br&gt;achieved the goal of valuating jihad standing AND cleric resurrection&lt;br&gt;simultaneously.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In practice most players have very low standing, so let's assume they&lt;br&gt;can get only 10% of their EXP back due to standing. Then, with a good&lt;br&gt;rez they can hope to be back at the 500k XP loss that they are used&lt;br&gt;to. BUT they can strive for better! And that's what I wanted to&lt;br&gt;express - standing having a purpose and an intent as it pertains to&lt;br&gt;death while at the same time not making it a burden, instead a reward.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry for the lengthy post but as many of you know I sometimes have to&lt;br&gt;make changes, examine the impact, and come back and revise those&lt;br&gt;changes. Take it or leave it, that's the way it seems to work to come&lt;br&gt;about to a better system. Hopefully people will agree on some level&lt;br&gt;that this is a good move - I honestly do this to make the place better&lt;br&gt;while at the same time not devaluing death - it should be something to&lt;br&gt;fear and something you strive to avoid.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; - Razan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[[Category:Changes_Board]]</div>

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